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, for example, after katrina, just like after sandy up here in new jersey and new york, a city turned into the largest construction site in the world. right? an entire city. and what happened? workers who were sourced through temp agencies last year in our membership, their two-person household income was 7,500 a year. they are bargaining for higher wages and if they succeed, they will be earning 20 to $40 an hour in that industry. that will lift conditions. that will be the rising tide. >> but, look, unless that changes the share that has to come out of some other worker's pocket. that's where the union worker's wage came from, was from the minority. >> people -- minority made extraordinary less and that essentially -- >> let me say this. >> this is a -- in economics this is very old. in early stages whenever they would trade unions, there were people who said there's a fixed pot for a worker to get. those who make a union and get it will deprive others and radicals, of whom i'm a part, had to come in and say there's nothing fixed about what labor gets. and you need to understand tha
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